If Jesus never said anything about Christmas then why do we celebrate it if he has never been apart of it?
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Curiosty/satisfaction
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 Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| AmenOne of my favorite PassagesJeremiah 10:2-5Jesus has NOTHING to do with that PAGAN holiday |
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Craig R
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesus wasn't born on Dec 25 and the Bible gives us no instruction to celebrate Christmas.Christmas is not a Christian holiday, it's a secular holiday. There's nothing wrong with Christians celebrating it, but it's not something we should claim as belonging uniquely to us.There are no "Christian holidays". You can make a case for resurrection Sunday, but there's no command to celebrate that (unless you interpret Christ's instruction about "the Lord's Supper" as a command to treat the bread and wine of the passover meal as a remembrance of his death, to be repeated annually until he returns, as a command to celebrate something like "easter". |
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DRAAGON
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| No one knows what day Jesus Christ was born on - if he was ever born at all. From the biblical description, most historians believe that his birth probably occurred in September, approximately six months after Passover. One thing they agree on is that it is very unlikely that Jesus was born in December, since the bible records shepherds tending their sheep in the fields on that night. This is quite unlikely to have happened during a cold Judean winter. So why do we celebrate Christ’s birthday as Christmas, on December the 25th?The answer lies in the pagan origins of Christmas. In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ. The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture. In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death. This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The festival season was marked by much merrymaking. It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born. The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors. From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born.In northern Europe, many other traditions that we now consider part of Christian worship were begun long before the participants had ever heard of Christ. The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule. Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year. As the Sun God grew and matured, the days became longer and warmer. It was customary to light a candle to encourage Mithras, and the sun, to reappear next year.Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun. The word Yule itself means “wheel,” the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun. Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual. Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods.The tree is the one symbol that unites almost all the northern European winter solstices. Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again. Evergreen boughs were sometimes carried as totems of good luck and were often present at weddings, representing fertility. The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees.In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless as possible for pagan Romans (who remained a majority at that time) to convert to Christianity. The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them.Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first. The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a Christian celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany. A prominent Lutheran minister of the day cried blasphemy: “Better that they should look to the true tree of life, Christ.”The controversy continues even today in some fundamentalist sects. |
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Benjamin C
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Remember, if Christmas isn't found in your heart, you won't it under a tree. |
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Mystic Marvin
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| The bible says Jesus celebrated Hanukkah. |
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Beverly B
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I do not think that people who decorate a tree and put presents under it are worshiping the tree, if kneeling is what it takes to worship, then people have been worshiping the shoes they kneel down to tie for a long time. For many families Christmas is about getting together, having family time that is special and marked with a celebratory act of giving. It is also for some families a day that they have chosen to celebrate the birth of Jesus. It may not be the exact day, but it is a day that many use to commemorate an event that they feel is special to them. Many Christians "celebrate' Jesus everyday, but what is wrong with setting aside one day as a special day for Jesus, to remind us that God sent His son.There are many things that Jesus does not talk about that we take part in. I do not see why Jesus would not approve of it. |
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ruth
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| You are not required to celebrate Jesus' birthday. Not on December 25, and not on any other day, either. Your choice.You don't have to celebrate your spouse's birthday, your child's birthday, your mom's birthday. Your choice.I celebrate the birth of Jesus. My child's birthday. My mother's birthday. A whole bunch of people's birthdays. And today the 1st birthday of my best friend's baby boy.Because I LOVE them!ADDED: If you feel strongly about this, it is wrong for you to put up a tree, go caroling, whatever. But when it comes to preaching against something unharmful as Christian doctrine? You're over the line, and I will have some things to say. |
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Genevieve` T
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| We have a tree, it is symbolic of life.We have carolling because it says in the bible "make a joyful noise" as we are celebrating the birth of Christ The Savior. Gifts came when the Wise Men brought the baby Jesus gold, frankincense and myrrh. It always has amazed me that atheists judge us on having Christmas and the way we celebrate it but they sure don't mind getting the gifts from the holiday. |
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Ray K
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Man needed a holiday to get his mind off of the cold winter. I heard Jesus was probably born in our month of November. It's nice to remember that God came to earth in the form of man to save us, even if the actual date is wrong. Whether or not you or anybody puts Christ in Christmas is a personal choice, and I believe that is why anxiety runs high durring the holiday season, is that the meaning has been twisted to emphasize giving of gifts (going into debt) instead of remembering what we are to receive; not what we are to give. |
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sam w
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| personally i never celebrated christmas for jesus. i celebrate for the sake of presents, drinking and clubbing |
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AdoreHim
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| putting presents under a tree does not mean we worship the tree. That is ridiculous- We are celebrating the birth of our Lord- what is so wrong about that - if Jesus had not been born into this world, we would never have been saved- He was born to die, that is what we are celebrating- our salvation. Singing Christmas carols, if sung from the heart, and in worship to Jesus , what is wrong with that. I think it is amazing that the one time in the whole year, people can listen to songs on the radio and in the mall that celebrate Jesus- nothing wrong with that. |
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butterfly_love239
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Just read this verse of the Bible and it will tell you Jesus never mentioned this holiday orhad anything to do with it .Jeremiah 10:2-5 .It is all pagan thinking .Jesus came as a light to his people not to be celebrated once a year with presents and the Christians forgetting what they are celebrating!And like one fellow yahoo-er said he just celebrates it for the gifts clubbing and drinking and I dont hthink hes alone...so that should tell you something right there .Do your research!And you should find your anwser.Jesus has NOTHING to do with that PAGAN holiday |
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John W
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| study the history of Christmas. |
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