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The Bible and Christmas-Where do we get our Christmas customs from if the bible says nothing about Christmas?

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Shawnn J
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject: The Bible and Christmas-Where do we get our Christmas customs from if the bible says nothing about Christmas? Reply with quote

Have you ever wondered why do we do the things that we do for Christmas,why have an evergreen tree that is not even Christian and has nothing to do with Jesus,why hang Christmas stockings,why exchange gifts, and why do we tell our kids the Santa Clause lie,does the bible give us authority to celebrate the birth of Jesus though he was not born in the winter nor the 25th of December,is it true that Christ hates Christmas because he has never and never will be part of it?
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Coocoockachoo
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christmas was a pagan holiday. as for traditions.. i don't know.There doesn't need to be a rationale for adopting holidays, christianity isn't about rationality.
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Bull F
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

down is up up is down paper books mirrors why ask for help and then forgiveness why ask when,what,where,how,orwhy only religious people believe why get me in a war to test me bfi garbage cans arin every house in the world. the beast owes his life and soul to my rule book slavery is freedom
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skoobysnaks1999
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=2561
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Lady Black Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christmas was hijacked from a pagan festival.
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Super Nintendo Chalmers
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Methinks Christ would be none too happy to see the spectacle that became Christmas.
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Michael K
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yule and other Pagan beliefs.
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MSB
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pagan solstice celebrations...Same thing with Easter. But a holiday is what you make of it, regardless of it's roots.
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jungman59
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

most Christmas traditions are taken from co-opting Paegan traditions into christian docterine for the purpose of converting the natives. The Christmas tree is part of the Druid tradition, Santa Clause, comes from the legend of St. Klaus in Europe.The problem is that people wanted a day to celebrate the birth of Jesus. Give something to Humans and we will foul it up someway.Please learn the difference between the word "Christ" and "Jesus"...and Jesus doens't "Hate" anything. By definition, love can only be love.
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lawrencegrossman
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost all of Christian holidays were taken from the pagans. This was the way the converted them, was to let them have there rituals and still convert them.
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Cerisse Sinclair
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no doubt that some of what we now refer to as Christmas traditions can be traced back, in some form, to pagan cultures and celebrations. The ringing of bells, for example, is generally thought to have had its origin in the early pagan winter celebration of ringing of bells to drive out evil spirits. In later centuries, bells were rung on Christmas Eve to welcome in the spirit of Christmas with joyful noise (Psalm 95:1). When Christians enjoy the beauty of a glorious bell choir ringing Christmas carols, we are reminded of the coming of Jesus into the world, not the driving out of evil spirits.Similarly, there was an early pagan tradition of lighting candles to drive away the forces of cold and darkness. However, is it likely that our hearts are drawn to those early pagans rather than rejoicing in our Savior, the Light of the World (John 1:4-9) as we light candles? Of course not. Nor is it likely that when I give gifts to my loved ones at Christmas, the gifts will have less significance to either of us because some Druid somewhere in time offered a gift to his goat as part of some pagan ritual. No, we remember, as we should, the gifts given to the Christ-child by the Magi (Matthew 2:11). Jesus was the greatest gift ever given, and therefore His birth is worthy of celebration.So obscure are the beginnings of many Christmas traditions that reference books and internet sites contradict one another on the details. Some of our most popular and beloved Christmas symbols are entirely Christian, and were never part of any pagan religion anywhere. At the same time, some Christmas traditions undoubtedly do have their origins in the pagan past. What is important is not the origins of traditions, but their significance to us today as believers in the Son of God. December 25 was not mentioned in the biblical narrative as the day Jesus was born, and, as such, we cannot be dogmatic about it one way or the other. But even if the date is completely wrong, there is still the opportunity for thousands of people who wouldn’t go to church any other time of the year to go on Christmas day and hear the gospel of Christ.If you are fully convinced that you cannot, in good conscience, observe a particular Christmas tradition - do not observe it. If you are fully convinced that a particular tradition is too steeped in paganism to honor God in any way, by all means, forsake that tradition. At the same time, if you are fully convinced that you can honor and worship God through a particular tradition - honor and worship God (Romans 14:5)! For Christians, Christmas traditions can be an important part of the celebration of the birth of our Savior, and they remind us of that momentous event that changed the world forever. More importantly, they bring to mind the miracle of new birth He created in us when He came into our hearts, saved us from our sins, and made us children of God by the shedding of His blood on the Cross (Colossians 1:20). It is this amazing truth that enables us to say with the angels, “Glory to God in the highest and on earth peace, good will toward men” (Luke 2:14).
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lynn
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christmas was invented long after the Bible was written
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WVMagpie
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

most traditions are taken from paganism and the Catholic Church, which sought to "Christianize" pagan customs to make them more acceptable to those who weren't Christians but were being forced to be.from the time my son was 2 years old i told him that Santa was a folktale. we put the emphasis on Christ at Christmas time, reading about the prophecies of Christ's coming, his birth. we put out a stocking for Christ and put a slip of paper in it telling what our gift is going to be to him in the coming year (such as service to others)i don't think the time of year is important. i think the celebration, if done in a Christian way, is important because we as Christians get busy and we need to take time to think more about these things.it does provide a fantastic opportunity to witness to others (they are more open to hearing about Christ) if your life is up to par
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mirolas_nove
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why don't you study ISLAM.you will not find something strange about it.if you find it, contact memirolas_nove@yahoo.comormirolasnove@gmail.comoror my friendster : mirolas
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joseph
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a traditions my friends if you don't like it then don't celebrate you have a free will to do so. But then it is better to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ than not, how would you react if someone celebrate your birthday? Bible is only our guide not the basis of everything, not all teaching of God is written in Bible.
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