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jonathan w
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 Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: can a person make one self born again as in you must be born again? |
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| as in John 3:3Verily, verily, I say unto you except a man be born again he can not see the kingdom of God. John6:44 no man can come to me, except the father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. so were is free will? Ephesians2:8 for by grace are ye saved through faith: and that not of your selves: it is the gift of God. 9 Not by works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. And it gose on to say for the praise of his glory! So why act all self rightcous about something that God did for those whome he chose before the foundtion of the world was even set. Not that He saw any good in us, thats why he sent his son as an atonment for our sin's, the Spirit quiken's, I was dead until the eyes of my understanding where open to see his gift. that is the grace. |
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Cyprch27
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Amen! As the saying goes, "There but by the Grace of God, there go I." We do, however, have free will of whether or not to accept the free gift of God's Grace."Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith."Romans 3:27 (King James Version) |
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Ben
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, anyone can decide to be a born again Christian. |
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Sentinel
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Christians have always interpreted the Bible literally when it declares, "Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. 3:21; cf. Acts 2:38, 22:16, Rom. 6:3-4, Col. 2:11-12). Thus the early Church Fathers wrote in the Nicene Creed (A.D. 381), "We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins."And the Catechism of the Catholic Church states: "The Lord himself affirms that baptism is necessary for salvation [John 3:5]. . . . Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament [Mark 16:16]The Christian belief that baptism is necessary for salvation is so unshakable that even the Protestant Martin Luther affirmed the necessity of baptism. He wrote: "Baptism is no human plaything but is instituted by God himself. Moreover, it is solemnly and strictly commanded that we must be baptized or we shall not be saved. We are not to regard it as an indifferent matter, then, like putting on a new red coat. It is of the greatest importance that we regard baptism as excellent, glorious, and exalted" (Large Catechism 4:6). Yet Christians have also always realized that the necessity of water baptism is a normative rather than an absolute necessity. There are exceptions to water baptism: It is possible to be saved through "baptism of blood," martyrdom for Christ, or through "baptism of desire", that is, an explicit or even implicit desire for baptism. Thus the Catechism of the Catholic Church states: "Those who die for the faith, those who are catechumens, and all those who, without knowing of the Church but acting under the inspiration of grace, seek God sincerely and strive to fulfill his will, are saved even if they have not been baptized, the salvation of unbaptized infants is also possible under this system. |
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Laura
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Born again means to change.The potter is God, you are the clay. |
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Yunier B
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| clone duh |
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