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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: Christians do you agree with these quotes? Reply with quote

“Reason is the Devil's greatest whore; by nature and an manner of being she is a noxious whore; she is a prostitute, the Devil's appointed whore; whore eaten by scab and leprosy who ought to be trodden under foot and destroyed, she and her wisdom. . . . Throw dung in her face to make her ugly. She is and she ought to be drowned in baptism. . . . She would deserve, the wretch, to be banished to the filthiest place in the house, to the closets” . “Usury, drunkenness, adultery—these crimes are self-evident and the world knows that they are sinful; but that bride of the Devil, `Reason', stalks abroad, the fair courtesan, and wishes to be considered wise, and thinks that whatever she says comes from the Holy Ghost. She is the most dangerous harlot the Devil has.” “Reason is contrary to faith”, “Reason is the whore of the Devil. It can only blaspheme and dishonour everything God has said or done” When I am angry, I am not expressing my own wrath, but the wrath of God”. “They shall respect our teaching which is the word of God, spoken by the Holy Ghost, through our lips”. “Not for a thousand years has God bestowed such great gifts on any bishop as He as on me and I boldly vouch and declare that when you obey me you are without a doubt obeying not me but Christ” “Whoever obeys me not, despises not me but Christ.” “I believe that we are the last trump that sounds before Christ is coming”. “What I teach and write remains true even though the whole world should fall to pieces over it. “Whoever rejects my doctrine cannot be saved.” “Nobody should rise up against me”. “I have greater confidence in my wife and my pupils than I have in Christ“When I beheld Christ I seemed to see the Devil”. I had a great aversion for Christ”. “Often I was horrified at the name of Christ, and when I regarded Him on the Cross, it was as if I had been struck by lightning; and when I heard His name mentioned, I would rather have heard the name of the Devil” “I did not believe in Christ,” God, on the other hand, “a master armed with a stick”. “God did mischievously blind me”; “God often acts like a madman”; “God paralyses the old and blinds the young and thus remains master”; I look upon God no better than a scoundrel”; “God is stupid” “Christ committed adultery first of all with the woman at the well about whom Saint John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying: `Whatever has he been doing with her?” Secondly, with Mary Magdalene, and thirdly with the woman taken in adultery whom He dismissed so lightly. Thus even Christ, who was so righteous, must have been guilty of fornication before He died” What we do and how we act does not matter in the least. All that matters is our belief. It does not matter what people do; it only matters what they believe.” “God does not need our actions. All He wants is that we pray to Him and thank Him. “It does not matter how Christ behaved—what He taught is all that matters” “What does it matter whether we commit a fresh sin?” “Faith cancels all sin” . “No other sin exists in the world save unbelief,” “Sometimes it is necessary to commit some sin out of hatred and contempt for the Devil.” “What matters if we commit a sin?” “You must say my sins are not mine; they are not in me at all; they are the sins of another' they are Christ's and are none of my business” . “Christianity is nothing but a continual exercise in feeling that you have no sin although you sin, but that your sins are thrown on Christ.” “From the moment when you acknowledge that Christ bears your sins, He becomes the sinner in your stead“Be a sinner, and sin boldly, but believe more boldly still.” Not only men, but the Saints and Apostles must be sinners. “The Saints must be good, downright sinners.” “The Apostles themselves were sinners, yea, regular scoundrels…I believe that the prophets also frequently sinned grievously” “I have brought on headache by drinking old wine in the Coburg, and this our Wittenberg beer has not yet cured. I work little, and I am forced to be idle against my will because my head must have a rest.” “If I have a can of beer, I want the beer-barrel as well”. “I am but a man prone to let himself be swept off his feet by society, drunkenness, the movements of the flesh” “What is needed to live in continence is not in me”. “I am but a man prone to let himself be swept off his feet by society, drunkenness, the torments of the flesh “Instead of glowing in spirit, I glow in the flesh.” “I burn with all the desires of my unconquered flesh“I rarely pray. . . . My unruly flesh doth burn me with devouring flame. In short, I who should be a prey to the spirit alone am eating my heart out through the flesh, through lust, laziness, idleness, and somnolence.” “You owe nothing to God except faith and confession. In all other things He lets you do whatever you like. You may do as you please, without any danger of conscience whatsoever.” “The sting of flesh may easily be helped so long as girls and women are to be found.” “The body asks for a woman and must have it”; “to marry is a remedy for fornication” “Marriage is an external bodily thing, like any other manipulation.” “Know that marriage is an outward material thing like any other secular business.” “The body has nothing to do with God. In this respect one can never sin against God, but only against one's neighbour“In spite of all the good I say of married life, I will not grant so much to nature as to admit that there is no sin in it . . no conjugal due is ever rendered without sin.” “The matrimonial duty is never performed without sin.” The matrimonial act is, “a sin differing in nothing from adultery and fornication” “The word and work of God is quite clear, viz. That women were made either to be wives or prostitutes” “If you do not want, someone else does. If the wife does not want, take your servant” “to satisfy their desires outside marriage, when they were not married, in order to give relief to natural feelings which they could not resist.” “It is not forbidden that a man should have more than one wife” “After a rape of nuns which took place on the night of Holy Saturday, 1523, Luther calls the citizen Koppe, who organised the exploit, a `holy and blessed robber'”. he refers to himself as “a famous lover” who has “three wives” but “no intention whatsoever to marry”. “To my mind,” he said once, “there is no more shameful vice on earth than lying.”
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Joe B
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way to long to read, You must have alot of time on your hands
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lifeontheark
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, way too long. If you're working on Martin Luther, then I won't agree with much. He hated Jews, he hated Catholics. He did a lot of good work, but it's so overshadowed in my mind by his hatred that I don't read him.
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CJ
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too much to read, and far more interesting questions on here. Goodbye.
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Blasfemur!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not gonna read all this....Wow, reason really is a whore, huh? Well, she's the best that I can get, that's for sure (and unlike faith, she gets results!)
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walter e
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eh?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

umm uhh, how long did it take you to do thatit looked longer than my homework
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Silent observer
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True indeed, reason is the christians greatest cryptonite for within reason lies the dismisal of religion.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i read enough of it to know that this is just another atheist trying to not only make there believe something thats not true and your trying to change the thoughts of christians but sorry we love Jesus and nothing you all write is gonna make you right or change our minds or is gonna make you right
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MamaEarth23
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree....
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buster
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you sound like a person from the dark ages.
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DrEvol
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faith is the justification for everything one desires; it is the answer for everything one cannot understand, and it is the pleasing answer to what one does not wish to know. Faith is the denial of reality, the enemy of reason, the fuel of violence, oppression, and abuse.Faith is the worship of hypocrisy.
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l1ght5aber
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone but the Lord God is a sinner. To your first paragraph, I say that the devil can draw you in with many things. Reason is one of them.To the second paragraph, I say that he is right. Whichever prophet that was was called by God. Therefore it is wise not to rise against him.The fourth paragraph: the worst. God does not just paralyse someone because he is old, or by what he has done. He always lets you be redeemed.Jesus committed no sin. In reference to those three women I say this: He helped her see her wrongs. She was a frequent sinner, and he taught her to believe. He did not bribe her with anything.He cast out demons from Mary Magdelene. He heals, not inflicts.Why would Jesus sin with a sinner like that? He helped her in some way, though I know not what.
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Rhonda F
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't possibly answer all of the quotes. About reason, no it is not of the devil, because God tells the Israelites, "Come now, and let us reason together." Faith in God does not mean BLIND faith, it means a faith which has been tested and proven to be true.The quotes about God speaking through us: "I have been crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me, and the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." This is saying that Christ lives through me "in the flesh", Ezekiel 36:26 says, "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you. I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh." (This is heart and spirit, not flesh.) The flesh still sins. So a true Christian would not say that his or her sins come from God, they come from the flesh. The new heart and spirit are God's however, and 1 Corinthians 3:18 says that God is transforming a Christian from the inside out "from glory to glory", meaning a little at a time.
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angeltress
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much too long to read all of it...No idea who you might be referring to...And it doesn't matter, anyway.Christianity is not about what some famous Christian or other did or said back in the Middle Ages...or yesterday...It is about your own relationship with God.
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